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The Biggest Bully: TV show a loser for weight loss : Comments

By Lydia Turner, published 5/3/2010

Why do we insist on giving fat people a bad time and why do fat people continue to put up with such treatment?

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Hmm, let me down a kitchener bun, a coffee scroll and a litre of Coke before I answer Bonnie. Yum. A moment on the lips is a life time on the hips or in Bonnie's case, eternal shame.

Girl, I should slap your face with a Tim Tam because you've gone too far. Don't you put your victim theology on me. Gee, Peter hit the nail on the head in five words.

Why should women be set up to adopt this 'us and them' sisterhood rant of over-read feminist drop outs who because they're INCREDIBLY unsatisfied, want to tell us what to do. You want to widen (pun intended) the anti-discrimination laws for fat people? I want less laws. A lot less. Set your treadmill to full speed and expire.
Posted by Cheryl, Friday, 5 March 2010 11:58:29 AM
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Cheryl? You want to slap my face ?

You assume that I am fat simply because I believe fat people deserve to be treated like human beings, with dignity and respect.

So assuming that I am fat means I deserve to be treated with violence. I am stripped of all human rights.

Do I have to be a Jew to oppose the Holocaust too?

Not actually being fat myself, you would assume if you looked at me that I was healthy. Yet I might be prone to cardiovascular disease, type-2 diabetes, cancer, I might drink or smoke too much, etc at the size I am at now.

You assume you know everything about my health and behaviours just by looking at me.

What I stand for, Cheryl, is the promotion of fitness and eating well to everybody, regardless of what size they are at. It actually takes a lot of effort to maintain fitness, but at least it is something that is sustainable.

Like Ian D's comment- as a fat man, he engages in healthy lifestyle behaviours. The fact that weight loss has not occurred might not be his fault. Our bodies are incredibly effective at defending fat. Contrary to popular opinion, you can lose weight but sustaining that weight loss after 2-5 years is unlikely.

If weight loss was as easy as just eating less, the commercial weight loss industry would be out of business.

By the way, emerging research is showing that people can be fat and fit, and that it is actually better to promote fitness to those who are already fat, rather than promoting weight loss.
Posted by Bonnie J, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:37:14 PM
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Also - significant improvements in health have been demonstrated, independent of weight loss.

If we can't make fat people lose weight, rather than bully them (or physically attack them as Cheryl would), why not make them fitter?

They may or may not lose weight, but at least it's sustainable.
Posted by Bonnie J, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:42:02 PM
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I think that "bio-psycho-environmental reasons" is the best term I've heard all day. Have to agree agree with Peter, though.
It's a real bummer that I have to go to town right now (catching the bus and walking) as I would look forward to following the posts by the minute.
Bonnie, No one likes the thought of fat people being bullied - especially at school, but it's up to their parents to make sure they don't get into that condition. It's all very well to blame it on western society, but somewhere along the lines we have to take responsibility for our own eating and exercise habits and those of our children.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:51:44 PM
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Bonnie, you've cut me to the core but yes, if I have to save you by hitting you with a Tim Tam, I will. I'm not a violent person, I'm a product of my generation, which is to say, I haven't done much with my life and everyone else is to blame!

I don't think you're a fat person. Your writing isn't fat and you're not infused with the happy, bubbly self depreciating humour of fat people. Like you I am all for sustainability. It's an adverb I put at the end of almost every sentence I write.

The only way to stop heffers eating six times their own body weight per day is aversion therapy. Every time they grab a pie, it's 110 volts where the sun don't shine. Trust me, it works. Sometimes I do it ... without the pie!

But lets home in on the issue here, lets go back to 'the text' as they say at Uni. Lydia is having a red hot go at The Biggest Loser because it uses the lowest common denominator (visuals) to denigrate fat people. But that's only true if we believe it. When I see a horizontally challenged person I don't think 'Biggest Loser' - I think, gee, how does that guy have sex or more charitably, it's just as well airlines don't sell seats by weight.

Oh yeah, it's not the 'bio-social, thingo..' that makes people fat, it's the inability to say no. But you know that.
Posted by Cheryl, Friday, 5 March 2010 1:15:35 PM
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"the inability to say no" is why people are so overweight?

Thank you Dr Cheryl, can you tell me what medicine or science you specialise in?

Do you also think that all skinny people are anorexic? Must be an inability to say yes hey?
Posted by Elka, Friday, 5 March 2010 1:49:17 PM
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